When I first decided to start writing, I joined my local Writers’ Alliance and was placed in an existing critique group. This was pre-Covid and we met in person at the library. The group was…eclectic, including a 70+ year old former University professor writing a memoir, a woman of similar vintage writing cozy short stories (or at least she apparently had in the past, she wasn’t currently writing), a retired English teacher who had a thing for punctuation and Oxford commas, a 40s year old man writing a sci-fi superhero robot fantasy, and a 20 year old kid writing something within a videogame. The latter insisted on naming people with unpronounceable words that included numbers and other keyboard characters – they would make great passwords, but not much else. None of us was published. Very much the blind leading the blind. Blinder still because of the mish-mash of genres and the fact that I came in in the middle of their manuscripts and no one had anything resembling a synopsis…or knew the word synopsis (including me).
Soon after I joined, the two oldest members dropped out (I’m
calling that a coincidence). Then the English teacher and video-game-dude
started taking umbrage with each other’s critiques (guess which of them called
it umbrage). A couple meetings later, threats were exchanged. I missed the next
meeting and soon after received an email asking whether I was comfortable with our
youngest member remaining in the group after he went over the table to physically
attack the comma policeman. Needless to say, I dropped out of that critique
group.
I tried a few on-line groups that lasted anywhere from weeks
to months. We didn’t meet, or even Zoom back then, just emailed critiques back
and forth. Not bad, but nothing really clicked for me. I tried another group
but they were mostly literary and wrote stories where I kept suggesting that
something needed to happen. They kicked me out. I tried Savvy Authors' critique
partner speed-dating, and swapping chapters and whole manuscripts with people I
met at meetings, but nothing lasted more than a few swaps.
Then two things happened: ITW (International Thriller
Writers) decided to start a critique group system and I volunteered to be one
of the founding members and facilitators, and Mystery Writers of America had
room in a new critique group. I decided to do both.
My MWA group is all Florida-based mystery writers led by very
successful cozy author, Cheryl Hollon, and includes the author of the Sin City
Investigations series, JD Allen, as well as two unpublished but not inexperienced
authors who are writing mysteries. We submit 2500 words, critique each other’s submission
with Track Changes in Word, then meet by zoom every other week to review the
critiques. Four of us met in person once and are planning another weekend
retreat next month.
Meanwhile, our ITW critique groups got off the ground after
a very formal system was developed and approved (our leader is an attorney). The monthly group I facilitate is composed of all
published thriller authors in various sub-genres from around the country (and
Canada).
At last I’ve found the critique groups that are helping me become a better writer and that hopefully will stick together. The input I’m receiving is so insightful and is improving my manuscripts as I write. I’m also learning from reading these other authors’ words critically. So what’s different this time? I’m more experienced of course, so I know what I need from my partners; and my manuscripts start off a bit cleaner; and I lucked into great people. But I also find value in the fact we’re writing in and knowledgeable about the same genre.
No question there are benefits to reading widely. And writers
of other genres have valuable input. Even readers or very early career writers,
can provide useful insight. But for me, at the early stage of a new novel,
having authors who know the genre and can advise about pacing and tropes and expectations,
and put their comments in actionable terms is immensely powerful and helpful.
How about you? Any great critique group stories/warnings/successes?
Tammy, thanks for posting about this column in a SinC message!
ReplyDeleteI've had various experiences in critique groups,luckily culminating in a GREAT group for many years now. I now know to stick to my guns whenever we consider new members.
ALSO, as a not-yet-published cozy writer, could you please tell me more about MWA? I got the idea this organization was only for traditional mysteries or thrillers.
Thanks for the note Becky Sue. No MWA has a thriving cozy section. The leader of my critique group, Cheryl Hollon, writes cozies. I encourage you to join. It's really a terrific group. I just joined the board for the Florida Chapter. We put on Sleuthfest each year in South Florida, which is also very educational and enjoyable if you happen to live down here.
ReplyDeletehttps://mysterywriters.org/how-to-become-a-member-of-mwa/
You’re so fortunate to have a critique group, Tammy. I had one years ago, but it was a bit dysfunctional.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Tammy, I'll look into MWA. Just signed up for the Sleuthfest newsletter too.
ReplyDeleteI belonged to a critique group that had a 14 year history behind it, but between "life happens" incidents and the pandemic, when we couldn't meet in person, the numbers have dwindled. And several of us moved away. We no longer meet as a group, even over Zoom (we did try that) but I have a very good critique partner now from that group. She has a history in editing and a great imagination, and I value her input immensely.
ReplyDeleteGlad you found a critique group.
ReplyDeleteSo glad you found a critique group. I had one years ago when I first began writing. None of us were published at the time and we all wrote in a similar genre. It was a great group. Like many groups, it disbanded through attrition when the two other writers decided to give up writing for life events. I've been seeking another since, but haven't found one.
ReplyDeleteTammy, I'm glad you now belong to a critique group that's helpful to you. I don't belong to a critique group, but I'm in a very close group of cozy authors. If I have a plot problem or a question related to my WIP, I run it by the group and get excellent advice.
ReplyDeleteI was lucky with my first critique group: The Cincinnati Writers Project. Good folks, good rules, good critiques. Without them I would never have published anything.
ReplyDeleteI love this picture and the critters in the group. I always feel like I get way more out of it than I'm able to contribute! Thanks to Cheryl for inviting me in and you guys for putting up with me.
ReplyDeleteGood blog dealing with the pitfalls (I had one group that I liked, but it went by the wayside) and triumphs (when the group works, it is great). Glad you found what works for you.
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