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Wednesday, March 27, 2013

An Interview with James Montgomery Jackson's Seamus McCree

Creating main characters that readers identify with and feel sympathy for requires a special writing talent. Just when the reader gets to know James Montgomery Jackson’s main character, Seamus McCree, he surprises or shocks the reader with his behavior. He seems as brilliant as he is flawed and yet we know he’s a good man. But even in his extremes, Seamus is always a thinker. Please welcome Seamus McCree, star of Bad Policy, released by Barking Rain Press this month, and the next-in-series, Cabin Fever, to WWK.   

Seamus, you gave up a big job on Wall Street. What happened?

You know, it’s been years and I still get ticked off when I think about it. I was a highly rated bank stock analyst for one of the big Wall Street outfits. I wrote a negative report about the prospects for a regional bank and said to sell the stock. That bank happened to be a client of our firm. Without my knowledge, my boss softened several of my criticisms of the regional bank’s practices and changed the final rating to indicate it was okay to continue to hold the stock.

I found out about the changes the day the report was released and quit on the spot. By quitting when I did, I gave up a big six-figure bonus. I have no doubt it was the right thing to do.

Do you enjoy Cleveland as much as NYC?

Actually, it’s Cincinnati. Don’t feel bad. Everyone outside of Ohio confuses Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati—and Cincinnati is the hardest to spell.

The day I arrived in Cincinnati I almost walked over someone in front of me on the sidewalk. It was soooo slow. I loved working in fast-paced New York; I loved playing in New York, but Cincinnati is a super city. It’s big enough to have at least one of everything (well, except for a winning football team; that was way before my time) and small enough you can easily get anywhere. We’ve got a great symphony, wonderful art galleries, great parks, ethnic restaurants and a wide variety of neighborhoods.

How did you get in such a mess in Bad Policy?

I think it’s fair to say it found me. Someone applied an IRA six pack (shots to both ankles, elbows and knees) to a guy I’d met on an earlier case. Then they killed him, left him in my basement and called the cops.

I suppose my complicity regarding getting into messes is that when someone hits me I want to know why. The police can usually figure out who, but the why is personal.

Even though you no longer have a Big Apple job, it gave you a reputation valued by your current employer. What is your job?

Some people can look at a complete musical score and hear violins playing, the beat of the tympani and a flute soaring above it all. I can look at corporate financial statements, particularly when it comes to banks, and understand them better than most. Because of that talent and a reputation for being trustworthy, I have a little consulting business that helps companies explore merger and acquisition opportunities.

My other job is working for Criminal Investigations Group. CIG provides police departments free expertise in a variety of areas that they lack. I set up the financial crimes group for CIG and still head it up. Mostly that involves boring forensic accounting work. Problems arise when crooks realize we’re onto them.

Once the reader comes to understand your job, Seamus, it isn’t much of a leap to understanding why you investigate. The authorities must rely on your word and analysis. Is it a power position or the hot seat?

That’s an interesting question. I suppose knowledge is always power, but the way I look at it is that police departments used to be able to rely on the FBI for financial crimes expertise. After 9/11 most of those resources were pulled to combat terrorism. My group within CIG tries to provide police departments help they desperately need to keep up with the crooks. We can’t force ourselves on them; they need to ask for help—and then they expect us to deliver!

You carry a lot of responsibility, but it can also put you in a bind. Did you ever undergo anger management therapy? Emptying a full clip into someone would make a reader wonder.

When I was young, I didn’t realize it, but playing soccer was my anger management. I played clean, but hard, and you can get a lot of anger worked out kicking soccer balls. I suppose I have never really understood the depth of my anger at my dad for dying early on me. But taking classes or talking to a shrink about anger? Probably not going to happen unless it’s court-ordered.

Your family’s background comes into play in Bad Policy. What side do you lean toward in the Irish dilemma? 

I need to state that I was brought up Catholic, and so I may not be unbiased. However, I do believe John Bull has had his boot on the Irish neck for too long. I also believe that violence is not the way to solve the problem. I can’t say I really understand either side’s perspective since I’ve never even been to Northern Ireland. By nature, I’m a unifier, not a divider, so I pray for sensible people to find ways to make everyone’s lot better and provide equal rights and opportunities for all citizens.

I know it’s a wishy-washy answer, but it’s the best I can do.

How does your competitive nature interfere with your relationship with your son, and why do you let it?

Both of us are very competitive, and perhaps it’s my fault that Paddy is as competitive as I am. Every father prefers to be faster, stronger, smarter, whatever than his son—but deep down knows time is on the son’s side. If I truly believed that being competitive with Paddy interfered with our relationship, I would roll over and bare my jugular in a flash.

But I don’t think Paddy would respect me if I did that. His victories (and there are many) are hard won and, as a result, mean that much more to him. He knows that even in my dotage when I’m down to playing Tiddlywinks, I’m still going to want to win—and I believe he’ll give me no quarter.

Paddy walks a fine legal line to help you in Bad Policy and Cabin Fever. You expect a lot from him. How does that make you feel? Aren’t you afraid he’ll get in trouble?

I am the proudest father in the entire world. Others may disagree, but they would be wrong. I know how flawed I am. Because half his genes came from me, I sometimes project my deficiencies onto him and worry about his decisions when it comes to legal versus pragmatic shortcuts. In many ways he’s shown better decision-making than I have—that’s certainly true comparing us at the same ages. But since he had some scrapes as a kid, I do worry he might get into trouble.

When your marriage broke up did it also damage Paddy’s relationship with his mother?

Paddy’s a grown man now. I’m going to defer that question to him.

Why can’t you live happily ever after with the women in your life?

You should have heard my deep sigh when I read this question. I sure wish I could. My current theory is that I haven’t accepted myself as worthy of love and so I can’t completely receive love when offered. It probably doesn’t help that I’m only attracted to strong self-sufficient women who don’t need me to “take care of them.”

If there is reincarnation and, as some believe, it happens because we haven’t completed work on our deficiencies, I have the feeling I’ll be back for another crack at getting this right.

In Cabin Fever you ask the question: What do you want to be when you grow up? Have you found an answer?

Every time I think I have, life throws a curve and I have to reconsider. At the risk of being shallow, I’ll cop a plea to still searching.

Does the remote wilderness of Michigan soothe the invisible savage beast?

It is something special to be in a place that is so quiet you hear your blood coursing through your body. I’m an introvert and am perfectly content there, but after a while I am recharged and need to engage the world. I suppose there is a risk I could become a hermit, but I suspect my extroverted son would not allow that to happen.

Seamus, you seem equally at home in the country or city, but how do you feel about the beach?

I did my homework and was all prepared for the famous EB bonus question of “mountain or beach,” so instead you tossed me this underhand pitch. Thanks.

I love the beach, but I prefer to be there off season without the crowds. I usually bring a pair of binocs to check out the birds and if I’m lucky catch a dolphin or two swimming offshore. If I’m really lucky, someone special is walking beside me.

Thanks for having me here today.

Thanks for allowing me to read the advance copies of both your novels, Jim. I enjoyed the reads. You can find out more about Jim and his writing at, When I went to his site, I got a surprise. The Cincinnati Writers’ Project recently published Jim’s short story, “Homework,” in the A Few Good Words anthology. Jim made “Accidents Happen,” a short story in Fish Tales, into an audio story. Both are available through his website. You can buy, Bad Policy here:  The first four chapters are available to read at the Barking Ran Press website and you may purchase Bad Policy at a 35% discount from the publisher at


Anonymous said...


Thanks for having me here today.


I twisted the author's arm and he's agreed to provide a free book to a random selection taken from the people who comment on today's blog. He'll make the selection on Saturday and announce it on his regular Sunday blog.

With a bit of fear and trembling, I'm looking forward to seeing lots of comments and discussion on the interview.

~ Seamus

Anonymous said...

Seamus McCree - Great name

Kaye George said...

As usual, great interview. I marvel at using a person with this job description as a sleuth! You manage to make his life intensely exciting, in spite of the numbers-oriented day job.

Jim Jackson said...


Isn't one of the fun things about writing to turn a stereotype and turn it on its head?

In your books, Imogene Duckworthy is not exactly the modern female sleuth and the characters in your soon-to-be-published Neanderthal novel are not typical either.

~ Jim

Kaye George said...

So true! And so fun!

Warren Bull said...

First, you have a great cover. Second, I like the blend of finance and investigation. It sounds like a very good book.

Anonymous said...

A very interesting article, thanks for sharing with us ---- book sounds really good, hope it does well. And if I don't win a copy I will have to go and purchase a copy! Thanks!

KB Inglee said...

Jim, I don't usually read novels about forensic accountants because I don't understand accounting enough to be drawn in to the story. Having read your work before, I imagine that you will draw me in.

Jim Jackson said...


My theory is if I can't explain the scheme in English, then it can't go into the book. A few numbers do appear from time to time, but they illustrate the malfeasance rather than inform it.

Seamus would be the first to agree with you. He's all about understanding the story that numbers tell, but one of the things that made him so good on Wall Street was that he could use words to paint the picture.

~ Jim

Polly Iyer said...

Because I prefer character-driven novels with flawed characters as opposed to lightweight ones, your book sounds intriguing. I love the dynamic you've sketched out between Seamus and his son. Best of luck with the series, Jim.

Gloria Alden said...

I had to smile over the competive nature between Seamus and his son. I remember when I first started dating my eventual husband and my father and my boyfriend had a diving contest off the high dive at a pool. My dad was in his mid 40s and my boyfriend in his late teens. And then at another time they tried to outdo each other in how hot they could make the pizza they were eating. I remember the tears pouring down their cheeks as they each kept adding more hot peppers.

I'm eagerly awaiting the arrival of BAD POLICY and can't wait to start it.

Lynn M said...

Family may be our bane but also our source of strength. Just when I want to roll my eyes at my father he does something wonderful for me that brings tears to my eyes.

Anonymous said...

What makes a good novel, you're right: The why is personal! I write legal crime fiction and the story is in what we throw out in real life legal problem solving: the why. As professionals in the courtroom, we don't care. But jurors always want to know why and as readers of exciting fiction, we also want, NEED to know why! In the best stories it's expressed more like WTF! Thank you for a great delivery!


E. B. Davis said...

Maybe I over emphasized Seamus and his son's competition. It isn't anything like the father and potential son-in-law in the Falkers. I think they amaze one another.

Seamus is a believable character for the very reason Jim has talked about. There are very few numbers people who also excel with words. Those that are talented in both tend to be quite successful. Take if from me, my first job out of grad school was to decipher engineering reports and translate them into English.

Thanks for the interview Seamus. We didn't have time to discuss the next book Cabin Fever, which shows how you adapt to a very different environment. It also proves that you are quite the gentleman.

When is your publisher releasing Cabin Fever?

E. B. Davis said...

Ah, I meant Jim's publisher!

Anonymous said...

Patrick McCree here:

EB, you wondered about my relationship with my mother after my parents divorced. Truth is, like any kid I loved them both and hated them both and fervently wished they would get back together. Now that I understand relationships in a bit more mature way, I know that their getting together would have done more harm than good for all three of us.

Mom and I get along okay--our biggest problem is I don't like her new husband (who I refer to as the Jerk). I understand Jim is currently writing about that whole kerfuffle in the manuscript he's tentatively calling DOUBTFUL RELATIONS.

Anyway, back to my old man. I'm glad he realizes he isn't top dog any more, but as he says, I want to beat him fair and square (and more and more frequently I do!)

And as for Dad's anger management -- he never took it out on me or Mom. He runs it off or hits, kicks or throws some ball or another.

~ Patrick McCree

Jim Jackson said...

The publisher and I are just about to sign a contract for CABIN FEVER. I don't know if she'll bring it out March, 2014 or push it up some.

carla said...

this looks like a terrific book--thanks for telling us about it.

Kara Cerise said...

Nice interview, Seamus! My copy of BAD POLICY just arrived. I am eager to dig in and read.

Anonymous said...

Seamus sounds interesting! This was a fun read, piques my interest in the books.

And thanks for the chance at a win. That's always fun too.